‘Shame on You’: Ted Lieu Accuses Pam Bondi of Lying Under Oath in Heated Clash Over Trump and Epstein
WASHINGTON — The halls of Congress were the site of a fiery confrontation on Wednesday as Attorney General Pam Bondi clashed with Democratic lawmakers during a House Judiciary Committee hearing, with Representative Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) flatly accusing her of lying under oath about President Donald Trump’s connection to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein .
What was scheduled as a standard oversight hearing for the Department of Justice quickly devolved into a partisan battleground, dominated by questions over the recent release of the Epstein files, the treatment of victims, and allegations of a cover-up .
The most explosive moment of the five-hour session came when Rep. Lieu played footage of Trump and Epstein together at a party. He then asked Bondi a direct question: “I want to know, were there any underage girls at that party or at any party that Trump attended with Jeffrey Epstein?” .

After a long pause, Bondi dismissed the line of questioning as “so ridiculous,” arguing that Democrats were trying to “deflect from all the great things Donald Trump has done.” She then made a definitive statement: “There is no evidence that Donald Trump has committed a crime! Everyone knows that” .
Lieu immediately reclaimed his time and countered with a document he claimed proved otherwise. “I believe you just lied under oath,” Lieu said, his voice rising. “I’m showing you here is a witness statement… who drove Donald Trump around in a limo. He overheard what Donald Trump said to Jeffrey on his cell phone… And he met a girl who said she was raped by Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein” .
Lieu further alleged that the woman later died under suspicious circumstances, adding, “No one, no one at the Department of Justice interviewed this witness” . He pointed out that while Epstein is dead, the men who enabled him remain free. “Epstein should rot in hell, so should the men who patronized his operation. And as we sit here today, there are over 1,000 sex trafficking victims. And you have not held a single man accountable,” Lieu thundered. “Shame on you! If you had any decency, you would resign right after this hearing concludes!” .

Visibly rattled, Bondi shot back, “Don’t you ever accuse me of a crime!” . Reports from the room noted that during the tense exchange, Bondi appeared to rely on notes passed to her from staffers and a large white binder, which critics later dubbed her “burn book” on Democrats, containing pre-written attacks on lawmakers rather than policy answers .
The hearing was marked by repeated shouting matches. At one point, Bondi called a Democratic lawmaker a “washed up, loser lawyer” and refused a request from Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) to turn around and apologize directly to the Epstein victims seated in the audience, dismissing the request as “theatrics” .
Despite the intense pressure, Bondi did not step down. She maintained that the Justice Department is following the law and that there are “pending investigations” into the Epstein matter . However, even Republican Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky joined in the criticism, accusing the Justice Department of a “massive failure” to comply with the Epstein Files Transparency Act and claiming he caught them “red-handed” redacting names inappropriately .

As Democrats stormed out and the gavel fell, the hearing left a clear divide: Republicans focused on President Trump’s achievements and claims of political persecution, while Democrats accused the Attorney General of running a “cover-up” for the powerful men in Epstein’s orbit . For the Epstein survivors watching from the gallery, the promise of accountability remains unfulfilled.